By Steven Cooke
@SJC_Fishy
I am fortunate to deliver a fair number of research seminars at various institutions and in that capacity seem to find myself having lots of “pizza lunches” with grad students and post docs. After hearing about what they are up to, it is inevitable that someone will ask me a question like this… “How can you publish so many papers - I can only assume that you don’t sleep?” I also read the paper published on hyper-prolific scientific authors, and found it (especially the appendix) interesting and alarming. Some of the most productive (in terms of paper output) researchers were very willing to share that they credit such productivity to getting little sleep and working virtually non-stop. Having a large research group and other things like that fed into it too but in general one walked away with the idea that all of these individuals lacked any level of reasonable (a subjective term) work-life balance. My concern is that such a message would be exactly what would be remembered by early career researchers and in doing so go down a similar path. That was the basis for my tweet that has been variably considered to be an audacious humble brag, an entirely tone-deaf statement, or perhaps a genuine statement regarding the importance of work-life balance.
@SJC_Fishy
I am fortunate to deliver a fair number of research seminars at various institutions and in that capacity seem to find myself having lots of “pizza lunches” with grad students and post docs. After hearing about what they are up to, it is inevitable that someone will ask me a question like this… “How can you publish so many papers - I can only assume that you don’t sleep?” I also read the paper published on hyper-prolific scientific authors, and found it (especially the appendix) interesting and alarming. Some of the most productive (in terms of paper output) researchers were very willing to share that they credit such productivity to getting little sleep and working virtually non-stop. Having a large research group and other things like that fed into it too but in general one walked away with the idea that all of these individuals lacked any level of reasonable (a subjective term) work-life balance. My concern is that such a message would be exactly what would be remembered by early career researchers and in doing so go down a similar path. That was the basis for my tweet that has been variably considered to be an audacious humble brag, an entirely tone-deaf statement, or perhaps a genuine statement regarding the importance of work-life balance.
Tired of people assuming that I don't sleep becuz our lab publishes 60+ papers/yr. Guess what: reason our lab kicks butt is becuz we DO sleep & have balance in our lives. More time DOESN'T = > "productivity". Failed relationships, depression & crappy parenting is NOT success. pic.twitter.com/MWgYDzd4TR— Steven J. Cooke (@SJC_fishy) January 27, 2019
Everyone can judge as they will
but it was done with genuine hopes of dispelling the myth that the only way to
“do more” is to “put in more time” and in doing so trade-off one’s health, wellness
and relationships among other things. A
few tweets only gives one so much space to dig into what is surely more complex
than what I initially tweeted and I am grateful to Andrew for giving me a
platform to reflect on the last few weeks of twitter banter share a few more
thoughts here. Beyond the twittersphere,
I have also engaged in extensive off-line discussion with friends and
colleagues regarding these topics which I have found useful. I think it is fair to say that my tweet
generated more discussion than I could have imagined which I will take as not a
pat on the back but rather an interest within our community to discuss a
variety of topics I touched on in the tweet.
So – let’s keep the conversation going!
Andrew asked me to think about trade-offs – what am I trading off to achieve the “productivity” judged by paper output. A few things about me… I study fish and got into science because I loved fishing. I continue to be an avid angler and thus there is an inherent blurring of work and pleasure. I read fishing magazines for enjoyment but it also helps me to understand what is happening in the real world. I go fishing for fun and almost always take a data book with me. However, I also get to spend many days a year fishing for research and therefore, in effect, get paid to do so. I can take my kids to work and hand them a fishing rod and they are in heaven (and I am collecting data; in this picture they are catching bluegill off our dock that we subsequently tagged as part of a spatial ecology study).
My family is my life – I spend most of my spare time doing
the things we all do – being a taxi driver, getting groceries, tidying the
house, fixing things that are broken, cooking, and of course playing with my
kids. I don’t watch sports on TV and
aside from the odd binge-watching session I don’t watch much TV at all. My favourite hobby is cooking (which also is
useful activity for feeding the family and my biggest creative outlet) and I also
like running and cross-country skiing.
So – Back to what I am trading off…
Well, along with being active in research comes lots of travel and so I
do spend significant time away from home.
I try to avoid being away over weekends and when I am away I work my
butt off. When colleagues at a meeting
go on sightseeing tours I often pass and instead look forward to coming back
with my family in the future. So, I
often sacrifice taking in all of the touristy sites on my work travels and
would rather hunker down and get my “work” done so that when I get home I am
fully present and engaged. Admittedly,
when at home (or wherever) I am a daydreamer so I could be playing with my kids
and then suddenly have an idea for a project or paper that I have to jot down
before I forget – but I suspect I am not alone.
Having a big team does mean that I have to keep my eye on
email when on vacation (to deal with safety issues, mental health issues,
thesis roadblocks, etc.) but I also do an awful lot of vacationing where I
combine work and play. My wife is a teacher
so we enjoy spending our summers together with our kids. Cottage life means I get up and check emails
in the morning, have a few phone calls with team members, and might do an hour
of writing in the heat of the day when the kids nap or read. That is my balance – rarely disconnecting
totally but rather having extended summer holidays (2 months) but with the cost
being a few hrs of work each day. I
consider that a win and love that type of balance. Swimming, fishing, cooking, playing games,
exploring the forest, exploring the shoreline, catching frogs… and a little bit
of work. Maybe I would be better off if
I entirely disconnected but I would rather have most of the summer with family
and have to spend some time each day dealing with essentials to keep the ship
afloat.
I am sure there are other things I trade-off
subconsciously. For example, I wish I
had more time to troll the literature. I
do love finding and reading new material but my reading list is long so I am
often forced to scan. Relatedly, I wish
I also had more time for “fun reading”.
The reality is that I spend so much time looking at a computer screen or
paper (e.g., thesis, report, grant) that I don’t really like to stare at more
pages at the end of the day. I also wish
I could spend more time in the field with my team. I think I am pretty decent
at this (I refuse to accept the idea that I am only an administrator) but it is
still difficult to live vicariously through my team. I want to be there to help them – to
experience new environments with them – to understand the cultural context for
our work. I am always a phone call away
but wish I could still spend 100 days in the field as I did when I first joined
the professoriate. Realistically this
has been more constrained by having kids than publishing a bunch of papers or
having a big lab but nonetheless – is something I wish I had more time for.
As raised during twitter debates after my tweet, unequitable
access to resources can underpin one’s ability to publish a high number of
papers while having reasonable work-life balance. All I can do here is humbly note that I am
fortunate to have a lab that is well supported and won’t pretend that this is
an easy issue to address. I do my best
to ensure that we celebrate outstanding scholars and don’t judge them solely on
their number of papers. I take this role
seriously and make sure we focus on the full picture when thinking about
tenure, promotion, hiring, awards and grantsmanship.
In terms of context – I am in privileged position – I have
an incredibly supportive and loving partner (who has her own professional
career) – this is core to everything. I
should also add that we support each other – I work hard to minimize traveling
during her report card writing periods.
We respect each other immensely and work as a team – a partnership. I should be clear that one can also do it
alone but I can imagine that there are different struggles, especially if a
single parent. I am also a tenured full
professor with a Canada Research Chair (CRC) position such that my in-class
teaching load is relatively small. To be
clear, it is not that I dislike teaching, but I don’t have to do much of it
(that is the spirit of the positions).
So – I have more of my work time that I can devote to various aspects of
research including writing and mentoring.
This privilege begets productivity and productivity reinforces privilege
– a feedback that is certainly in itself worthy of further discussion.
I also have an AMAZING team as I’m sure we all like to
proclaim as mentors – dedicated learners and problem-solvers. Their creativity and passion inspire me and I
love nothing more than to celebrate their many achievements. Over the years as a lab we have discussed whether
we are too focused on publications but every time we conclude the papers are
needed to formalize and share what we have done. However, we also recognize
that publishing papers is insufficient if we are to influence others with our
work. For that reason we consider peer
reviewed papers to be the foundation for #scicomm and even engage in research
(with social science collaborators) about knowledge mobilization (see here).
I am also incredibly fortunate that I work at an institution
where it doesn’t ever feel like one has a “boss”. I have never had an administrator sit me down
and try to influence my research in any way (e.g., do more of X) nor have I
done so with other faculty members when I have held academic leadership
roles. I am used to working in an
environment where there is room for everyone to excel – whether it be in
teaching, mentoring, outreach, service, research, etc. Moreover, we celebrate people who are good at
these things – not just those doing research.
We don’t have merit-based pay – we have a collective agreement guiding
financial compensation with it simply being a function of time in the trenches (save
any special retention packages if one has an offer from other institution). I hear about the high pressure and toxic work
environment experienced by colleagues at other institutions and it is foreign
to me (again, a blessing). There is so
much mutual respect within my institution that we lift each other up and
recognize that we are all different and give in different ways. I am so proud of all of my colleagues and
make it a habit to acknowledge and congratulate people who have done good
things – especially things that do not have to do directly with research. When I think of the real change-makers of our
time, I don’t go to the people with the most papers, the most students, or the
most citations – I go to the people who I think have the best idea and are
accomplishing great things – whether in the classroom, in #scicomm, in
research, and in knowledge application.
The “60+” papers led to the assumption that this was all
output from my lab. I did a quick look
at the papers from last year and about half come from collaborations with
researchers at other institutions and many of those do not involve my lab
members. When I reflect on how those
collaborations came to be, it has often been over a shared approach to science
– the ability to go from idea to paper without it getting derailed. I think people that like to write (and I LOVE
TO WRITE) end up attracting (or being attracted to) collaborators who also like
to write. Being an active and responsive
collaborator is critical. Too often it
is assumed that collaboration is easy – a notion I disagree with. There are a number of folks I only collaborate
with once and others that become “regulars”.
The reasons for either outcome are varied but the ways I judge are 1)
was it fun/stimulating; and 2) did we achieve something worthwhile (training a
student, solving a problem, writing a paper, creating a website – whatever)? It needs to be both or I am out!
There is an assumption that with a big lab, one must not be
able to give the same attention to trainees as someone with a small lab. That may be true if time is a useful
indicator of mentoring ability or quality.
The reality is that there are some small labs where the mentor is
horrible and big labs where the mentor is excellent. I will leave it to my peeps to weigh in re
the quality of the mentoring I provide but I will comment on my approach. It is very personalized – some students have
no interest in sitting down together for a 1 hour formal meeting once per week
and reach out as needed. Some reach out
when they hit a wall and that may be on a Sunday evening. By understanding individual learning styles,
motivations, and other quirks (some need carrot, some need stick) I can
customize the mentoring to their needs.
I will also add that I am not the only mentor or supporter in the lab. Encouraging team members to share,
collaborate and socialize is a great recipe for creating a broader support
structure for all team members.
Mentoring of big teams could easily be an entire blog so I am going to
stop there!
My thoughts on “productivity” have been greatly influenced
by Chris Bailey and I hope you check him out at A Life of Productivity Chris graduated with a business and marketing
degree from my institution (I have never met him) a few years ago and took one
“off” year post graduation to conduct a series of experiments on himself to
understand what factors influenced his productivity (called “A year of
productivity”). The idea has since
morphed and grown into “A life of productivity” and Chris now coaches others on
how to be more productive. I routinely
visit his website and find myself nodding my head in agreement with everything
I read.
One of my favourite posts is one where he summarizes the top
10 things he took away from his year of productivity (here).
In particular, I fixated on Tip # 9
which he calls “boring” and I call “life-changing”. Quoting
Chris, “Over the last year I experimented with integrating countless habits and
productivity techniques into my life, but at the end of the day, the three
productivity techniques that worked the best for me were: Eating well; Getting
enough sleep; Exercising.” And there you
have it. I do my very best to do all of
those things. When I don’t, things fall
apart at work AND at home. This is
something that I have experienced in very real ways during my studies and
career yet it really only gelled and became one of my “mantra’s” upon following
Chris. I will note that Tip #9 does not
say that one has to have balance in other ways (e.g., maintaining positive
relationships with family and friends) so it needs to be merged with ones like
his Tip #4 where he describes how working too much or too hard will shatter
productivity. My life is such that when
I do have time to write or think I have to have laser focus and be productive
in that time, so I very much subscribe to the notion of working smart, not
long. For what it is worth, post-kiddos
this has really become a truth!
His tip #1 is a doozie – one I think we all need to
consider. That tip states that “Productivity isn’t about how much you produce,
it’s about how much you accomplish”. I
can’t think of a more meaningful statement and in fact this mirrors some of my
own thinking in a paper in which a
colleague and I wrote about abandoning the quantity-quality debate regarding
publications and instead think about “influence”. I work along the entirety of the
fundamental-applied spectrum and I train problem-solvers. Sure, I am proud of the work we produce and share
but I am more proud of the influence that the research has had. I fully subscribe to the idea that we need
science that is blue-sky/discovery/fundamental which may or may not lead to
tangible “applications”. However, I am
an applied ecologist so if I am pretending to do applied work, it better be
relevant to end users. This comes full
circle in terms of how we “assess” each other.
Our assessment tools for research “productivity” are flawed and focused
largely on the quantity-quality issues with it being difficult and uncommon to
consider broader impact (or using Chris’s working – accomplishments).
Here are a few other “tips” to complement those provided by
Andrew (How To Be Productive) and Chris Bailey. For the
purposes of this discussion I am using “writing output” (papers or grants) as
the measure of productivity which is solely to provide more focus to the tips
but fully recognize the flaws in doing so.
Don’t force it. If you are not in the mood to write, forcing
it will rarely be fruitful. Of course,
you can’t put off writing that thesis or grant application forever but just
because you identified a window of time to do writing doesn’t mean that will be
an effective use of that time.
Don’t spend too much time AT work (and find your writing zen spot). The more time I spend on campus, the more behind I get with my work. I obviously need and want to be there for interactions with my team members and colleagues. To that end, I use my time on campus to interact with people. Writing (even collaborative papers and grants) is an individual activity and for me I can’t do so on campus. I bet I have not written 100 words of a paper or proposal on campus in the last decade. I do edit the work of others while “at” work but I do not write. My zen spots include a favourite chair at home, airplanes, early mornings at the cottage in the summer, and the back corner of a wine bar or pub (writing from a riverside pub during trip to Australia in fall 2018 depicted in photo).
Beat to your own
drum. What works for Andrew and I may not work for you. Don’t compare yourself to others. Do great science. Share your work. Figure out what you love to do. I have sat on enough hiring committees and
grant selection panels to know that there is no formula to success and no
simple or singular way to measure or assess productivity. Yes, some people will count papers and look
at impact factor, but what I see is efforts focused on scholars doing great
stuff – not just writing papers, not just teaching, not just outreach (etc.) –
some balance and combination of the above.
What I do see is that people with piles of papers and nothing else not
ending up with interviews (at least for academic positions). Maybe this is influenced by the amazingly
positive work environment I have at my institution but I have also seen the
same play out elsewhere. It is about the
intangible “fit” and it is about WAY more than papers. I also would like to think we are in an era
where hiring committees are looking for people with a semblance of work-life
balance to serve as role models for their mentees.
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Each January I start the new year with sending an email to
my team with some personal reflections on the year-gone-by and the year
ahead. Here are a few excerpts which
highlight well the trade-offs I consider sufficiently worthy to discuss with the team.
(Sent January 4 2018 – I cut out the first part where I gush
about their passion and accomplishments).
… As time goes on I think of myself more as “the
synthesizer” – I take what you do, and work done by the broader learned
community, and try to weave it together with some of my own creative juices
into a meaningful story (sometimes with lessons for others…). I also find that through time I am learning
MORE from you than I did when I first started out as a prof. I suspect this is for several reasons – one
being that we now have the financial resources to be able to stray more widely
from my “core”. I also suspect that as I
age and take on more leadership roles (plus family duties – I am now officially
a hockey, gymnastics and x-country ski taxi driver) and have a larger lab that
I am not there for as much of the day to day of field research (early on I
was). This is something I struggle with – especially because I LOVE field work
so much. But – this is also a natural
progression which I know has occurred with all of my mentors (Dave Philipp is
an obvious exception as he is doing more field work that most of you and he is
in his 70s…). Although I can’t be as
hands on, I do need to be accessible to you and this year I endeavour to do a
better job of keeping up with all of your field activities through VERY regular
calls even if I can’t be there. There
have been a few field projects that have gone sideways over the last few years
and that is on me for not providing sufficient support (which might mean a more
senior field person to assist). I look
forward to ongoing conversations re how I can BEST support YOU!
One area of improvement I am looking for as a lab (me
included) is to be less last minute… We
seem to always be making a dash to the finish line – whether it be a thesis, a
conference presentation, a scholarship application, a letter of reference,
etc… I would like all of us to do a
better job of looking ahead and planning so that we can reduce the stress that
comes with having things pushed up against deadlines. You will see more pokes and prods from me
(especially for students re thesis progress)
this coming year. From experience
I can assure you that there is nothing more stressful than having to write an
entire thesis under the gun. I also
think we need to do this to be fair to our partners – especially the great
adjunct profs and collabs who support us.
They should not have to suffer because we are throwing things at them
last minute. So – this is both for your
personal sanity but ALSO as a courtesy and out of respect for our
collaborators.
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FINALLY - I will end with a tweet from one of my favourite change-makers – Elena Bennett from McGill. It is a perfect way to close my blog and start the discussion.
Can we just let everyone find their own balance without so much judging? Each of us has a different life situation, and so our happy balance places are not going to be the same. Which means each of us, including @SJC_fishy, can be a good model for someone.— ElenaBennett (@ElenaBennett) February 1, 2019
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